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Monday, December 10, 2012

True Story: I Waited Till Marriage To Have Sex


This is one of many True Story interviews in which we talk to people who have experienced interesting/challenging/amazing things.  This is the story of M. who waited till marriage to have sex.  According to this 2006 study, 5% of Americans wait till marriage to have sex.  This interview is not a condemnation of waiting till marriage, it's simply one woman's experience.  Please keep your comments respectful.  Polite, articulate criticism is welcome; incendiary rubbish is not and will be deleted.


Tell us a bit about yourself!

My name is M, I'm 29 and I live in Northern California. I am a teacher, a writer and a yogi. I like reading, being outside and social media.

Growing up, how did you feel about sex?
I was raised in a very religious home. Most of my sex education consisted of "Nice girls don't have sex until they're married." Anything I learned about contraception was at school. I developed very early and therefore thought about sex a lot from a young age, even though it was forbidden. Honestly, I think being told that it was wrong did two things: first, it made it much more attractive (I read "Forever..." by Judy Blume under the covers a lot!) and secondly, it made me feel very guilty that I had sexual desires. I thought I was alone in my desire for sex. Now that I teach teenagers, I definitely understand that I was not in the minority! I actually wish that we were more up front with girls about healthy sexual desire, masturbation and safe sex - the conversation seems to stop at birth control or "don't have sex."

Why did you decide to wait until you were married?
I truly believed in my religious upbringing when it came to sex. I actually left the church when I was 20 years old, before I got married. I'd stopped attending and was wrestling with my faith, but not having sex was one tenet I held to. I thought that it was the "right" thing to do, and so, I waited. I didn't even think about it very much---I just did what I was taught.

Was it hard wait? Did it affect your dating life?
It was difficult for me. There were many moments when I would say, "Screw it, I don't want to wait anymore!" but my boyfriend really, really felt convicted not to have sex, and ultimately, I did, too. After we were married, it became obvious that my boyfriend wasn't straight, and it was clear that it had been easier for him to wait simply because he wasn't really into ladies. The fact that I was so sexual and he wasn't was a huge source of guilt and shame for me --- I seriously thought there was something wrong with me for having a lot of sexual desire. When you combine that with some body insecurities, I definitely had a hard time feeling positive about sex and my body after my husband and I divorced. I still struggle with it today, even in a relationship that is very healthy!

Did you wait till you were married to engage in all sexual activities? Or was it 'just' sexual intercourse that you 'saved'?
I did everything but have sex, both with the guy I married and my first boyfriend before him. I think that is a huge flaw in the pro-abstinence movement: no one discusses the "rest." I can remember admitting to a Bible study group that my boyfriend had touched my boobs and they FREAKED OUT. I couldn't bear to tell them the rest of the things we'd done. Oddly enough, two of those girls ended up pregnant outside of wedlock. No judgment there, but obviously, I was not the only one getting busy! No one talks about what's "okay" and not, and no one discusses sexual activity. Again, I think that for many religious girls, admitting that you are doing anything sexual is a huge source of shame.

As for rationale, I don't know that I had any other than I liked sexual things, but sex was wrong in my eyes. I felt insanely guilty for engaging in any sexual activity, but I did it anyways, somehow convincing myself that it was fine as long as I didn't do the "big one." My high school journals are filled with prayers for forgiveness for my sexual interactions with my boyfriend. I honestly wish I could go back to that version of myself and tell her she was normal.

How long did you date your boyfriend before you got married? Did he wait till marriage as well?
We dated off and on for seven years, and were together seriously for four years before getting married. My boyfriend had sex with a previous partner, but believed that he was a born-again virgin after going through some serious prayer and counseling. From the minute we started dating, he insisted that we not have sex, and because I was actively involved at church, I agreed and we never really discussed it (save for a few weak moments) again after deciding to wait.

Do you think that sex played into your decision to get married?
Yes and no. I think that in the religion I was raised in, getting married was just what you did after you dated. Having sex was definitely something I was excited about but I also wanted to be a wife and start my life. I think I was less excited about having sex and more excited not to feel so guilty all the time for wanting it.

This is actually one of my biggest issues with religions that condemn sex before marriage. I think it's incredibly odd to tell couples that they shouldn't have sex or engage in any sort of sexual activity and then flip a switch where it's all okay. Most relationships I've been involved in have included a slow progression of "fooling around" before having sex, and it is so weird to expect that couples go from zero to 60 in one night. Finally, I get really sad that so many girls grow up like I did, thinking that there's something inherently wrong with sexual desire when in reality, it's deeply normal to want to have sex.

When it finally happened, did it live up to your expectations?
UGH. No. NO. My first time was literally something out of a horrible romantic comedy. We were both very concerned about everything going "right." A big thing at Christian bridal showers is giving a serious amount of lingerie. My maid of honor gave me a very special white teddy for my wedding night, and I chose to wear that. We stayed at a super cheesy bed and breakfast with a huge bathtub. There were rose petals and soft lights and the whole works.

The wedding night itself was pressure-filled. I was so exhausted after one of the most emotional days of my life. I lived at home until I got married (I was 21) and so not only was I overwhelmed with the joy of seeing people I loved and all of that, I was also dealing with the fact that I was moving out of my parents house, something that was tremendously sad for me (I am VERY close to my family).

Anyways, when we got to the bed and breakfast, my then-husband had made a plan. He would shower, and then while I showered, he would get himself "excited" and then we would Have The Sex. Instead, while he was in the shower, I found a card my parents had left for me in my suitcase telling me how much they loved me and how sad they were that I was moving out, so when he got out of the shower, I was hysterically sobbing.

There was no sex. I tried, but neither of us was into it (me, because I was sad, and him, because he didn't really like girls, but I didn't know that yet). I added that to the list of things to feel terrible about: who couldn't go through with sex on their wedding night?! ME.

Finally, we consummated our marriage the next morning in the bathtub. It was okay. Sex with anyone is usually a bit awkward the first time, if we're being honest, but this was pretty bad. We had sex a few more times on our honeymoon, and I never had an orgasm. I also cried a lot because my husband wasn't into it. It was awful.

Do you ever wish that you hadn't waited?

I think that if we hadn't waited, I would have figured out that my husband wasn't into girls. He just never seemed to care about pleasing me, had a difficult time getting and staying "interested" and we had zero chemistry. I wish we'd figured that out earlier because I think we wouldn't have gotten married. While we did engage in other activities before marriage, they were very guy-centered (a lot of oral sex for him) and he was into that.

Still, I don't regret it. I think that my experience taught me a lot. It's oversimplified to put it this way, but the experience I had led me to every good thing in my life today, so while I wish I had made a different choice in waiting because it ended in a failed marriage that might have been prevented, I am very grateful for where I am today.

What advice would you give to those thinking about waiting till marriage?

I understand that abstinence is urged in many religious circumstances, but if I could give advice, I would say NOT to wait. I think that having sex is not just about the act of sex: you get to know someone when you are intimate with them. Having sex usually means you can do things like travel together and spend overnights together, and I think those things help a relationship grow. When my marriage failed, I ultimately felt like I had "missed" a huge part of getting to know my husband because we literally had not gotten to know one another beyond casual dating.

Also, I think that chemistry is a vital part of any relationship. I firmly believe that you can really love someone, yet not want to have sex with them, or not have good sex with them. That makes all the difference in an intimate relationship.

While I don't want to discourage people from following their religious beliefs, I am a fan of saying "Chastity got me screwed." And that's how I feel. I think it's a hugely important thing to figure out before you've committed your life to someone.

Did any of you wait till marriage?  How do you feel about that decision?

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91 comments:

  1. i waited until marriage but, like this author, engaged in 'everything but' The Sex. this article rings very close to home....the religious standards, then the guilt, OH the guilt, the disappointing honeymoon / unreasonable expectations.

    thankfully things have gotten better...we've been married 10 years and when i discovered after a year that most don't achieve orgasm through penetration alone (what? who knew?)and learned how to work around differences in sex drives, we actually began to thrive.

    how do i feel about waiting? it's mixed... i had very limited sex ed and so it's a good thing that i didn't end up pregnant or worse, with an std. but if i could do it all over again with what i know now, i might do things differently. and i don't know how i feel about that.

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  2. I am going to wait until marriage, as well as "everything else." This is because I am a Christian, sex before marriage is one of my personal boundaries. But I do understand the authors point. My parents were very open to talking about sex and I was taught about sexuality throughout my childhood. I can remember my mom helping me through a time when I was very young and accidentally exposed to porn, it freaked me out. She was very open and honest and I am really thankful for that!

    All of that being said, I respect other peoples decision to have sex before marriage. I can see the befits. My personal belief is that you should wait. To the author: Thank you for writing this and for being so open!

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    1. I'm really, really glad for you that you had such a great upbringing! It sounds like you actually learned about sex and then made a decision for yourself on what was best for you and your beliefs. I'm a sex blogger (living with my boyfriend haha) and I really applaud this post.

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    2. Agreed with both posts above. I like how informed and tolerant you are.

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    3. That sounds like an awesome mom, and more people should be raised like you, how you have your first time can affect you in the future, but also shying away because you think its "wrong" isnt healthy, so many people arent honest or patient, so they either make mistakes from sex, or stay away from fear. its awesome how tolerant and informed you are, and they should really change how catholic schools teach sex or else im going to do this to my future kids

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  3. up until a year or so i was pretty set on waiting until marriage. i'm 26, and have been with really wonderful guys who were respectful of that decision-- especially my current boyfriend who i've been with for about a year and a half. i just started to realize that the big thing that was absent from all of my christian abstinence education was LOVE. sex before marriage doesn't mean you're automatically sleeping around and horribly sinful. (loving) sex before marriage is like (loving) sex after marriage in a lot of ways-- intimate, wonderful, and in a good situation-- all about loving the other person and expressing it in a really special way. i decided to have sex with my boyfriend a few months ago and have been so glad i did. i kept waiting for the guilt, but it never came, MUCH to my surprise and relief.

    i would encourage anyone struggling with this to look beyond what they've always been told-- look into themselves, and into the relationship they're in. are you loved? do you feel safe? are you respected? is it about mutual enjoyment? one other thing my boyfriend always said was he never wanted sex to be prescriptive (something we did so that we would become closer), he wanted it to be descriptive (we love each other this much and sex is a way to reflect that).

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    1. Such a good and lovely point! <3

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    2. I feel like I could have written this comment myself. Thanks for sharing and I agree!

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    3. Thank you very much for that point.Especially when you say to look beyond what we've been told and more into ourselves.I was also into the waiting style until a year ago and I decided to give up on my virginity because he was the one (I thought!)It was really good but I hadn't consider how stable our relationship was and unfortunately we broke up.So I was wondering how my next boyfriend would react if I told him I want to wait until marriage although I lost my virginity.I feel more confident now because I know I have to really sit and get into my heart then I will make the right decision.Do I feel loved?safe?respected?ready for it?

      Thank you!

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    4. That was an absolute wonderful response. I completely agree with the point you made when you said loving sex before marriage is like loving sex after marriage in a lot of ways. I am a Catholic and was dead set on waiting until marriage. When it seemed that everyone around me (friends, classmates, etc.) was having sex, I always thought I'm going to be the one who waited. I am now a second year collage student. However, I recently had sex with my boyfriend. It was my first time. We love each other unconditionally and we both strongly desire to get married in a couple years. I know he is the man I'm going to marry. Though I don't regret the act with HIM I do feel guilt about the act in general. In fact I feel very sad about it and have the hardest time accepting the fact that I cannot take it back. I told him I don't want to do it anymore until marriage and he completely understands and only wants the best for us and our relationship. Though I did give my virginity to my future husband and to a man that I will spend the rest of my life with, I can't help but feel guilt. I find it hard to accept the fact of it all. My biggest hurdle is understanding that just because a couple waits, does not guarantee a perfect marriage. I would imagine there have been MANY couples that engaged in sex before marriage and have had long happy marriages just as there have probably been couples that did wait and are now divorced or in a very unhealthy marriage. I also find myself comparing my life to other people's. What I mean by that is for instance saying "oh look at that couple who's waiting; their probably going to have a wonderful marriage". I realize I need to stop comparing myself to other people or it will eat me alive. After all, I really don't know what their "real" situation is. It's between me and GOD. Reading these responses has helped me understand that it will be okay and God will take me back no matter WHAT happens.

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  4. This was a wonderful, eloquent, and candid interview. Thank you, M. I went to public school, so my sex ed wasn't influenced by the Catholic church (if I didn't go to a public middle/high school I would have gone to Catholic school) however, I maintained I was going to wait until marriage based on "wanting it to be special/with the right person." Only maybe a teeny tiny part of me was waiting because of my faith. I'm now in my early 20s and although I haven't dated anyone since I was 17, after many conversations, reading articles from both sides of this issue, and having some intimate moments with guy-friends, I would probably wait until I was with someone I loved, trusted, and would obviously not flee in case there was an "accident." I've realized that the "first time" for most women isn't magical, but awkward, and since I'm already a pretty awkward person, I'm not setting high expectations. ;) We only know what's best for ourselves regarding when to have sex for the first time, and it takes a lot of courage to come out and say "I was sure this was the right decision for me, but I was wrong." Thank you, M!

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  5. I waited until marriage and honestly, I wouldn't have had it any other way. All of my church leaders made it clear that sex is a wonderful, amazing thing, but that it's sacred and reserved for marriage to someone you love. I think that is the most important thing when it comes to chastity. It has to be clear that sex is great and a way of becoming closer with the person you're married to and that there's nothing wrong about it if you wait for the right time. As a result, I knew that my husband was the one I wanted to be with for eternity and we both made that leap together.

    It's also important to note, that abstinence is the only way to 100% avoid pregnancy. If more teenage girls waited, they could save themselves a lot of heartache.

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    1. That's very one-sided though.

      How many fantasies does your husband have, and how many of them are being fulfilled?

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    2. I'm sorry, but abstinence-only sex education has been repeatedly proven to not only be ineffective, it has been proven to *increase* pregnancies.

      I'm glad that you are happy with your decision, but your ideas about preventing pregnancies in teens are archaic, mislead, and ignorant.

      It's people like you that are causing religious teens to have higher rates of STDs and pregnancies around the country.

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    3. You are correct, the only way to not get pregnant is to not have sex. But I really do think that sexual desire is a natural human want, and to simply tell a human being to ignore it won't be the solution. There has to be *healthy* ways to redirect this. As some one who's had many partners and all kinds of fun, I never could have ignored this urge. If I considered masturbation shameful as well, then I would have been in a spiral of guilt. As you say, sex doesn't have to be shameful! But we have to acknowledge that this primal want is hard to ignore and there must be ways to address it.

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    4. I just have to say that the author of this comment is correct: if a woman doesn't have sex, she can't get pregnant. She isn't, at least in her comment, touting abstinence-only education. She is stating a fact about abstinence, and that is that it is the only way to prevent pregnancy 100%.

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    5. Abstinence didn't work for Mary! haha. And I'm a Christian, never waited, and wouldn't have it any other way. Also, waiting doesn't magically protect you from unwanted pregnancy in marriage either. Just because you sign a US legal document does not mean you're ready to have kids. You're right. It should be sacred. That's why you should not focus on the legality of it and focus on whether you two actually love each other. Having sex before marriage honestly saved my marriage.

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    6. How many people are divorcing yet majority if not all had sex before marriage,having or not having sex does not save any marriage,if you don't have common sense to keep a marriage going it will collapse even if you had sex before or after.Marriage is hard work.M's marriage failed because of the dishonesty from her ex husband and not because of she waited until marriage. When you are waiting there should be a force that drives you to do so.If its God surely you will wait but if its people you will fall hard because everyone will tell you how they feel.A christian should not have sex outside marriage period.And if teens waited they would not have all the sex related problems.Sex is great but in marriage and having sex with someone does not prove that you love each other.There are a lot of benefits in waiting.
      Thumbs up for all you guys that are waiting.

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  6. I didn't date much in high school and in my first few years of university I had a few flings but never a serious relationship. In these flings I was often pressured to have sex, but always maintained my 'no' (except for once when I was so sick of him begging that I said 'fine. put a condom on'. Luckily he didn't have one and respected me enough that that was a deal breaker). I reflected on my boundaries a lot, especially since most of my friends were having sex and couldn't put my finger on 'what' I was waiting for, was it marriage? Was it the right guy? When I was 21 I met a guy and fell for him really hard and fast. He was so kind, fun and understanding and was the most amazing rock when I got the call that my friend had died (on our FOURTH date).

    For the first couple of months I regularly thought how incredibly smitten I was with him and although we had sleep overs, he never pressured me after I'd told him that I'd never slept with anyone and wasn't ready. About 2.5 months into the relationship we were cuddling in bed one night when I decided that I was 'ready'. He was so patient as I shyly shared how much I cared for him, and that I wanted to have sex. He was happy and excited, but we didn't have sex that night (we actually waited another 2 weeks). And then I realized what I'd been waiting for...after my shy confession, he had one of his own. This time I waited patiently while he told me how lucky he felt to be with me, how much he treasured the months that we'd been together and how he felt like he couldn't hold it in anymore...he said 'I love you' for the first time. I immediately reciprocated and realized that THAT is what I'd been waiting for. That sex to me was an extension of my love and trust for him. By being ready to have sex with him, I was unwittingly telling him that I loved him. We are approaching three years now, and are living together. Ironically even back then I thought I was going to marry him, and still do. I am so glad of my decision because Iwouldn't want to change our progression at all:)

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    1. I like that. Sex is so much more special when it is with someone you love.

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  7. This was an interesting interview. I come from a conservative culture where sex before marriage is looked down upon and I had huge mental blocks against sex because of that. Now that I already did it, I believe it was no big deal and it is just a tool used to control women and their bodies

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    1. Thank you for raising this point! I found it very itneresting that M stated he believed he was a "Born again virgin" - is this an option for women? Would it have been acceptable for M to try sex and then become a born again virgin after prayer? Personally I believe that sex is as big of a deal as you want to make it, but I can definitely agree that there is a double standard here.

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    2. Actually I have heard of "born again virgins" of both sexes. I have actually heard of more women than men.

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  8. My parents weren't open about sex. I was raised to think sex was bad and to wait until marriage. I had planned on doing just that. But I didn't get a choice one night and had it taken from me. It's been over 10 years and I still hate sex and find it to be one of the dumbest things ever.

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    1. I'm so sorry that happened to you <3

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    2. I'm very sorry to hear about that. I would recommend talking to a counselor and processing the experience. No one should be allowed to ruin something that can be beautiful for you for so very long. Counseling will help you take the power back over your sexuality. Hang in there. You're not alone.

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    3. That is so, so sad. Your story breaks my heart and makes me so angry, too. I am very sorry that happened to you and hope that you are able to find a way to heal from the trauma.

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    4. I'm sorry that this happened to you. I've been through what you've been through and it's hard. It helps to talk to some one. Its helps to move past the anger and feel good about yourself. You're a beautiful, strong person and I bet the name Wonder Woman fits you well. I hope you can find peace.

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    5. Sorry about that. Find a counselor and things will get much better. Or pray to God, and he'll help you.
      Don't let the evildoer(s) that did that to you win. Rise back and regain what is yours.

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  9. I was also raised to wait until marriage to have sex. I ended up having sex for the first time at age 22, unmarried. I had been with my boyfriend for six years by that point, & always assumed we would wed. Toward the end, I think I knew the relationship was failing, but didn't want to admit it to myself after that many years together. I ended up giving in, & we then literally broke up a month later. I found myself so hurt & confused. I didn't understand why I had saved myself that long for nothing. I unfortunately ended up having a few meaningless encounters after that, assuming since I had been with one man, what was the point of saving myself any longer? My self-esteem plummeted when I realized I was nothing BUT sex to these guys. If I could go back & do it again, I would approach dating & relationships with the philosophy that just because you've been with one (or more) persons, sex is still special & can be saved for the right person again. I definitely regret being with men that I wasn't special to. I am now in a relationship where sex is an extension of love & I am comfortable & happy with it despite not being married. I wouldn't adhere rigidly to the rule that sex is only for marriage despite my beliefs as a Christian, but I do believe it should only be a part of committed & loving relationships. Maybe some people can be comfortable with it on a more casual basis, but it only left me feeling empty & used, & I never want to feel that way because of a man again.

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    1. There are two types of guys just like girls. Guys that are monogamous and want to settle down, and guys that enjoy hook-ups. Yeah, some guys will see you nothing more than a blow-up doll. But you have to learn how to separate these guys. If you're wanting commitment you can't hook up with a polygamous guy and then cry about it. Unfortunately, people who have been hurt by sex are usually the people to teach abstinence-only and give very biased opinions. That's kind of the problem we're hinting at. Luckily, you figured out monogamous fun sex but a lot of others haven't and go the rest of their lives regretting sex and wanting to go back in time instead of using it as a learning experience.

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  10. I think the most important point is to give women the CHOICE and not make them feel looked down upon because the chose to have or not to have sex. A person's worth should never be defined by her (or his) sex life!
    Both shaming women who have sex or ridiculing women who want to wait is harmful. Because this decision should not be made out of guilt but out of reflection with your personal values. Once you are comfortable with your own values you can make a healthy choice, that makes you feel good about it.
    But I don't think the "abstinence only"-education allows for an informed decision because it only shows one side. Furthermore, there are many studies proving, that areas with the abstinence-education suffer from the highest teen pregnancy rate, which is an unnecessary hardship from patronising the adolescents' right of information and self-determination.

    Regards,
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  11. I understand that a religious groundwork encourages you to abstain but hearing stories like this convince me that it's not always a positive experience. The combination of guilt, sexual suppression and negative self-esteem makes sex into this bad thing, when it should be one of the best things in a relationship.

    I couldn't imagine feeling guilty while being sexual active. Pleasure should be freeing and not a crime. Being sexually free, comfortable, and safe is something everyone should experience. Being sexually active in your teens (non-married) tends to give you more negative sexual encounters than positive but I'm still glad for the experience. Ideally you will have an arsenal of education and you're proactive about maintaining your sexual health by visiting a doctor regularly.

    While being sexually active, you learn about yourself, what you like and what you like in a partner. You learn to sort the "users" from the honest men. You gain self-esteem in the ability to maintain control and power in your sexual knowledge. I obviously don't recommend this if you aren't aware of Pregnancy and STD's, especially HPV (I know a close friend who abstained for years, had sex with her boyfriend of 2 years after he was tested and now she has HPV from him. Men are carriers and cannot be tested for HPV). Luckily I grew up with a very straight-forward comprehensive sexual education, especially with my mom in health care.

    Overall, I think everyone should make this choice based on what their body is telling them. If you feel the urge to have sex, try it! (Safely of course) If you aren't comfortable with sex and you want to wait then that's power to you as well! Abstaining in this sexually charged world is definitely more difficult then giving into social pressures. It should be a choice, not a mandate. Sex is amazing, great and so so good for you in many ways but also do what makes YOU happy, not others.

    Sorry for the long post I just feel very strongly about this and I'm glad you read other people's opinions.

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  12. There are so many great comments already here. I also waited until I was on the older side, not because of a religious belief, but because I kept missing the right time or person. My first time in particular was not great, but my partner and I went on to have many, many lovely sexual experiences together. I am very glad that I didn't just "do it" to be done with it. I think virginity is way, way overhyped in a lot of ways. At the risk of offending people, I don't think virginity needs to be treasured nor loathed. Sex is serious stuff, but it's serious for virgins and non-virgins. The risks of pregnancy, disease, heartbreak, embarrassment, shame, etc. are always with us when we think about sex.

    PS I hope I didn't offend anyone :-) I just think that too much treasuring of one's virginity can create a complex or unrealistically high expectations of sex.

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  13. I agree with Rosiecat, sex is serious, but virginity shouldn't be treasured or loathed.

    I am 27, I have never had sex and it's not because I am religious or waiting for marriage. At this point in my life I think that the risks outweigh the benefits. I don't have health insurance and I am not financially secure enough to deal with the potential negative consequences. If I had sex I would take safety precautions of course, but if any accidents happened it would be a major burden. I plan on having sex when I am at a more secure place in my life and I meet a partner that I can build a safe and satisfying relationship with. If that doesn't happen in the next 5 years will I start having sex ? I don't know, I am hoping and working towards fulfilling my plan

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  14. I also waited until marriage, and so did my husband. The statistic of only 5% is mind-boggling to me, mostly because it is such an intimate experience. I grew up Catholic, but although that was influential, it wasn't the only reason. My mom explained very early on the anatomy, benefits, consequences, etc. that all is involved with sex, and, I saw clearly the cons outweigh the pros in sex outside of a committed relationship like marriage. Physiologically, sex with one person literally bonds us (releases hormones) to that other person(s), and it is harder to bond the more partners one has. Pregnancy, STDs, and depression can all come along with the baggage that multiple partners (and having sex too early). It was never a shaming thing to talk about with my mom or adults in my life, and was always given a very positive light, and I just felt the consequences were too serious, and I very much felt that if my partner wanted to be with me and whom I felt respected by, marriage was the inevitable end of dating that person.
    I will say, that I agree with the interviewee, on the fact that the wedding night is literally like a light switch that gets flipped, but honestly, sex in the church is looked on as "very good" between married couples and is quite encouraged! Statistically, people who live together before marriage have the highest rate of divorce, which should also be considered.
    Sarah M

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    1. I too was surprised by the 5% statistic. In my group of close friends from high school, all seven of us (and our spouses) waited until marriage to have sex. So waiting until marriage is actually something pretty common in my sphere of life. My husband and I waited for religious reasons, and we're glad that we did - apart from religious reasons, we're happy that we both waited because there's a peace of mind that comes from knowing we've only been intimate with each other.

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    2. "In my group of close friends from high school, all seven of us (and our spouses) waited until marriage to have sex."

      ... or so they say ;)

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  15. I found this interview really fascinating and I thought the interviewee's conclusions about sex being another way to get to know someone to be spot-on. She makes some good points about not being ashamed about sexual desire, which most education programs or religious organizations ignore, or at least ignore that it exists for women, too.

    The comments seem to follow a different path, though. They seem to be either "I'm waiting until marriage" comments (which are fine if they didn't end with the judgmental "abstinence is the only way to prevent STDs" BS) or the "I wanted to wait but I didn't and I was pressured into it" comments, which make me really sad because these stories are about how women had no agency with their own bodies.

    It just makes me really sad that virginity is enough to make or break people's self worth. Sex is a normal part of existence, and whoever said that treasuring virginity or even sex can create a ridiculously high expectation of sex is right.

    You *can* have sex (even "meaningless" sex with people you just met!) and still have your esteem and self-worth. You *can* have fun while still taking it seriously.

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    1. To each their own, though. A person doesn't have to be okay with casual sex to have "agency" over their own body. You can believe sex is meant to be reserved for special relationships (& consequently regret poor choices in the past) & still have a current healthy relationship with your own sexuality.

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    2. I totally agree :)

      I don't mean to imply that anyone *should* have casual sex, but you shouldn't feel bad if you do or have, which I definitely started to feel after reading a lot of these comments.

      And I wasn't saying that anyone needs to have casual sex to have agency over their bodies, but the commenter who was raped was certainly robbed of hers.

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    3. I guess I can see it both ways. I do feel bad about some choices I made, but I use that as a learning experience & now know that casual sex really isn't for me.

      The rape is another (horrible) issue entirely. Very tragic & horrible.

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    4. Evie, I thought it was interesting as well that the comments overlooked the female desire part of the equation. The author mentioned masturbation, which I feel is an important part of the issue. The suppression of desire is the important part to me, not the waiting to actually have PIV sex, and I think whether or not a woman is comfortable with feeling desire and acknowledging her own needs is a lot more important than whether or not she is comfortable having PIV sex with a man!

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    5. I'm a little late to the party here, but...having deeply explored my sexuality (and continuing to do so), I can honestly say that I haven't yet made any sexual choices that I've regretted. I've done everything from missionary to full on orgies, and for me, as long as everything was done with a measure of respect (yes, you can still respect someone even if they're asking you to talk dirty or whatnot), I have never seen sex as shameful or wrong.

      I feel like RESPECT is one of the most important things, if not THE most important thing, when it comes to sex. Whether its causal sex with a person you just met, or your wedding night and you've waited til then, respect, both for yourself AND the other partner (or partners) is extremely important.

      -Kel

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  16. I was promiscuous as a teen and then wanted to wait to have sex with my second husband until the wedding. I love my choice.

    Although I was raised by an ex-Mormon mom who went out of her way to make sure we didn't feel guilt about sex, I did anyway, because I was promiscuous while a teen.

    Later in my life I learned things about the biology of sex. It dawned on me that the condom isn't a magic consequence-eliminating thing. The statistics about herpes are astonishing. The failure of condoms is always a possibility and I've had my own close calls. Bio-chemically, the emotional bonding involved in sex is very real. Psychologically, the way may and women become committed is different. Essentially, physically and psychologically, sex invests a woman as much as a marriage. To me, sex IS a marriage, and it doesn't make sense to me to marry without marrying. Energetically, things are being exchanged. Nature seems to indicate that monogamy is important. A woman's body "reads" a man's DNA through his fluids, so that when she gets pregnant by him, her body doesn't reject the fetus. (This is called pre-clampsia and it happens most often when a pregnancy occurs after not much time together having unprotected sex.)

    In a word, I feel that sex is just too sacred to have it outside the context of a very very serious commitment.

    However, I had the benefit of being very sexually knowledgeable from my past. I also did the "everything but" routine with my current husband. We also got married so fast that we created a scandal with worried friends and family! We were just really clear we wanted to get married, but I admit that the "everything but" routine was putting some pressure on the wedding date!

    So, if there is an ideal, I can't hold up my story as that. But for me, saving intercourse for this marriage wasn't about withholding it from myself, but about giving myself the gift of better sex for the rest of my life. When we have sex now, it is a consummation of a marriage commitment, not a consummation of "I love you". Our wedding night is a precious memory that I wouldn't trade for anything.

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    1. Firstly, I totally support your right to have an opinion on this matter, its extremely personal and everyone should do what is right for them.

      However, sex DOES NOT affect men and women differently naturally, its a construct of our patriarchal society and you can't generalize for every woman that "sex invests a woman as much as marriage".

      Also pre-eclampsia is high blood pressure in pregnancy, it has nothing to with rejecting the fetus or the amount of times you have had unprotected sex with the same person, anyone can suffer from it in pregnancy.

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    2. I'm also concerned with a couple of the comments you've made. I completely agree that sex constitutes an incredibly special bond - a bond enhanced by a firmly committed relationship.

      However, the comments made about a woman's body "reading" a man's body, thereby allowing her body to not reject her fetus troubles me. Not to open up a completely different conversation, but it brings to mind a certain quote in the news recently from a politician implying a woman's body could somehow recognize a rape over consensual sex and prevent pregnancy from rape. Neither statement is true. And the comment that preeclampsia is the result of her body rejecting a fetus resulting from "not much time together having unprotected sex" is also inaccurate. Preeclampsia is a condition in which a woman develops high blood pressure and protein in the urine after the 20th week (late 2nd or 3rd trimester) of pregnancy. Her body has already succeeded in implantation and progressed into the pregnancy.

      Beliefs such as these without scientific basis, lead to, among other things, a woman perhaps allowing society to judge the state of her very private relationship. More importantly, not understanding the potential conditions that can occur in pregnancy can lead to delaying proper medical care, risking the life of both mother and child. A woman's or man's decision about when to have sex is a completely private one that only she and he should be privy to. They should take into account religious beliefs and family morals to assist them in that decision if they so desire. But they should also be armed with a proper understanding of the physiological effects of sex from a scientific perspective rather than a perhaps well intentioned but ultimately misguided moral perspective.

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    3. The level of inaccuracy in the post about pregnancy is astonishing, and sad. THIS is why women and young girls have accidents and contract STDs; lack of education. Here we have a grown women not understanding how it really works.

      As someone who was sexually active before marriage- and married a man with kids so I know he was!, I can understand the opposite perspective. However, I personally feel that knowing your partner completely is a better indicator of a successful marriage. I do not regret being active before marriage, in fact I am really, really happy I was. I was careful, have always taken it very seriously,and have never had an accident. I have always gotten routine tests and see a doctor regularly. I think being active made me more knowledgeable because I took the time to educate myself for my own protection.

      To each their own, but I will be telling my children that it is more than okay to be active, and they will know how to protect themselves.

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  17. I'm sorry, but someone please explain to me why it's ok to do "everything but" except vaginal intercourse before marriage? I ask as a sexually active unmarried 28-year-old. I'm just trying to wrap my head around this.

    Why do we not give a sh*t about everything else?

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    1. I struggled with that question so much! I got to a point where I was thinking "who am I to call myself a "virgin" now?!" Honestly for me, some of the "everything but" felt like a more dramatic shift than actually having sex for the first time.

      When sex becomes about rules and restrictions, people find ways around them, and somehow that's ok in our world... doesn't make sense to me.

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    2. Actually, the thinking behind "everything but" is pretty logical... (no, really--hear me out!) The Christian community I was involved in when I was a teenager preached "virginity until marriage," so premarital vaginal intercourse was expressly, specifically held up as a source of shame. Other sexual acts, on the other hand, were pretty much never, ever mentioned--ESPECIALLY not oral sex or anal sex; occasionally you'd hear about kissing or "heavy petting" (?!), but oral sex and anal sex were totally taboo. As a teen who is trying to figure out right and wrong, when you have people in your religious community (people whom you trust) telling you vaginal sex is NOT okay--but they don't mention anything else at all--it's really easy to fall into the trap of "well, as long as we don't do THAT..."

      I was one of the teens who did "everything but," and I think it really screwed up my expectations, made it really hard to trust myself or my partner sexually, and piled a ton of shame on top of it all. I think the trusted adults whose advice I was trying to follow had good intentions, but they REALLY missed the mark by not talking about ALL sex acts.

      I now firmly believe that anything unmentionable or taboo will always lead to confusion and shame.

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    3. I hadn't thought about it that way! I guess what's interesting is that "sex" explicitly means vagina + penis in many religious environments, when it doesn't to many people (for example, that definition would mean that many lesbians are virgins). It's hard to have a dialogue about something where two people can have completely different definitions.

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    4. I agree that there is some illogical-ness here, but I have to say that as some one who's been with men that will do 'everything but' (for a multitude of reasons), there is something to be said that sex changes things.

      This is totally opinion, but I believe it's because you're more vulnerable when some one is literally penetrating you with their most vulnerable parts. Yeah, how is that for eloquence? It's just my feelings around this but I do think vulnerability is what it has to do with it.

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  18. In our modern society it is not true anymore, that all cohabiting couples are more likely to divorce once married. Here is a well written article that is careful of not confusing correlation and causation:

    http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/health/2008-07-28-cohabitation-research_N.htm

    There are some groups for which it is true, but at the same time the following is the case: "The odds of divorce among women who married their only cohabiting partner were 28% lower than among women who never cohabited before marriage, according to sociologist Daniel Lichter of Cornell University in Ithaca, N.Y."

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    1. The above opinion and article were meant as a reply to Evie, sorry, I thought it would show up directly beneath it...

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    2. Oh no, another mistake, I meant the one above Evie, by Sarah. Oh man, I should have gone to bed earlier^^

      Sarah the blogqueen, can you mend this?

      Have a good day, all you valuable ladies - whose value is everything but tied to your sexual preferences : )

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  19. Wow. Wonderful article. There are many great comments to what you've written, so I won't go on too long. I just wanted to say how validating it is to read about someone who's experience so very closely mirrors my own. Best of luck!

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  20. I want to start my comment with two things:
    1) Sex is a personal experience and I therefore believe it is a personal decision how you will approach it.
    2) I appreciate that what the author describes is her personal experience, and her opinions and feelings about her eperience are totally valid.

    That said, I'd like to briefly share mine:
    I was raised as an orthodox jew in a family where sex was not a taboo topic. My mother discussed sex at length with me and never presented it as in any way shameful. But she did present it as a big deal, not something to just be done with anyone. It was presented as sacred and, like all sacred things, they should be guarded and used at the proper times.

    Judaism dictates that a man and woman do not touch at all until they are married, but personally I didn't do well with that one. I did wait until I was married to have sex. I do not regret that decision and remain happily married to my husband. It did take time to adjust to sex and adjust my expectations of sex after watching way too much TV/Movies. I consider that a failing of the media more than a failing of my upbringing. I know girls who never watched tv or movies, and they were prepared with more realistic expectations than I.

    That was my experience, and I certainly hope I'm not alone in that.

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    1. I agree. I waited until I was married and both my husband and I are really grateful we did.

      It does take a bit of an adjustment to go from the 'we shouldn't' to the 'oh, we can' mind set but it was not a big deal and we're very happily married with no guilt or built up repression issues.

      I think wether you wait or not is a personal choice and no one else can really decide it for you.

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  21. Thank you for sharing this! In high school, I was a highly conservative Baptist who attended "Purity Conferences" and read countless books about waiting for marriage to have sex. Of course the results of this included me feeling awful every time I was horny, thinking I would only have "worth" if I wore one-piece swimsuits and never touched a dude, and latching onto the first guy who pretended (yep, pretended) to be a Christian willing to wait as well.

    After much wasted time and pointless shame, I finally started truly questioning my faith and learned to love myself, without letting a patriarchal set of rules dictate my thoughts and actions. After sleeping around a lot for the next several years - without a pregnancy scare or STD in sight (thank you condoms and the pill) - I am in a healthy, love-drenched, romantic relationship with a guy who is my best buddy and confidant.

    As someone who has gone from guilt-choked virgin to happy slut to proud atheist, I can honestly say I am so very grateful that I did not wait for marriage. I'll take learning and loving over beating myself up any day. Life is way too short to put off bliss!

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    1. A love for God is the one thing that makes a true christian wait.

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  22. Hear, hear!

    I waited until I was 21 and I am really glad I did. I was emotionally mature. I was with a very kind man who loved me very much. I was safe and felt loved and had one of the few good first time experiences I've ever heard of. I would absolutely advise young girls to wait until they're really ready, to not feel pressured, to be with someone who truly loves them. But waiting for marriage? Never.

    I've never been married, but I have been in a similar situation as the interviewee. I was in a relationship with a religious man who I loved very much. We originally planned on waiting till marriage, but decided eventually to have a go at it. Neither of us were virgins, but I didn't have very much experience before him. As soon as we started doing it, I realized he wasn't the man for me...a thing I wouldn't have known otherwise. Because it turns out A) we wanted vastly different things in the bedroom (I wanted to have sex; he wanted to ridicule me, laugh at me, and exercise control over the relationship by denying me sex) and B) while he was a very nice man outside the bedroom, he was a scary a-hole in the bedroom.

    If I found that out after I married him, I probably would have hurt myself.

    Don't wait, ladies. Wait until you're ready. Wait until someone loves you. Wait until you feel safe. But don't wait until you have vowed for better or worse. Because worse could happen. It really, really could.

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  23. What a great interview! I had never really understood the decision to wait until marriage; it was never an option for me, but I could totally relate to this because of your honesty and humour. I really appreciate your openness, and I wish you the very best!

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  24. I have a similar story, but I was a bit younger and the roles were reversed. I was with a girl for 3 years and we hadn't been past second base. I was 17 and I respected her wish to wait. On our 3 year anniversary, however, I walked in on her and a girl while trying to surprise her with a trip i had bought for us. There is definitely a LOT you learn from intimacy, and a lot that can be hidden without it. I had planned to propose during this trip, and obviously that wasn't going to happen anymore. But, if I had, we may very well be unhappily married right now. Since then I have become sexually active (because of the "chastity gets you screwed" argument), and I have much healthier relationships with partners, and also know how to please a woman (something i may have never learned). I guess for some, chastity could be a good thing, but know that it has its own associated risks. If you're willing to risk it, just remember that people are good liars.

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  25. Thank you so much for this interview. I was raised in a pretty traditional Christian upbringing, but my mom has always been very open about sexuality. As I got older, she, herself, told me she didn't want me to wait, but to feel good about whatever decision I made. I went to a private Christian school, and I was one of 3 girls in the Jr. high who did not take part in the "Purity Ceremony". (About 150 girls in our JH). I didn't make the decision to wait until marriage, but to wait until I was ready...and at 25, I am still a virgin. I have dated, but have only had 2 serious boyfriends, both of which were committed themselves to waiting until marriage. (I think I found the last 2 20-something year old virgins in CA!) It has been really great to read all of the responses and see how other young women think on this subject. Kudos to all!

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  26. We have to stop making people, especially women, feel guilty about being sexual, for masturbating, and for having sex. We should not be valued on whether we have sex or not and who we have it with. What consenting adults do behind closed doors is their business.

    Sex education is a life long coarse. We should be teaching young people about safe sex and healthy relationships. Teaching abstinence only in schools and hoping all parents give correct information doesn't work.

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  27. We both waited until marriage for the actual sex - and now sex after 20 great years is wonderful and keeps getting better. Of course we have our ups and downs like I am sure everyone does, but no comparing to past conquests, no concerns of infidelity. God created it good for a reason, save it, keep it special. It is worth the wait and worth working together to get it right

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  28. I was raised as a roman catholic and attended separate catholic schools until my final year in high school. I mirror the authors feelings about questioning my normality because of how focused I was on sex as a teenage girl. Since I was a girl and attending catholic school I became frustrated and disillusioned with my sexuality and how it opposed god's idea of a "good girl." I had sex for the first time when I was 15. It was nothing special, but I felt horribly guilty and worthless. It took years for me to realize that religion was wrong not me. My sexuality was oppressed and demonized by religion and when I walked away from god I found myself. I have had numerous partners (both male and female) and currently have a fascinating, adventurous and satisfying sex life with my life partner. My partner (ex-muslim) and I both agree that religion damaged our concepts of self and it wasn't until we renounced our religions that we were able to fully express our identities.

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  29. I never had any moral qualms related to sex, and I'm glad I wasn't raised to believe it was evil because I remember having sexual urges as young as 4 years old. No kidding.

    I didn't wait for marriage, since it's kind of presumptuous to assume I'd be married in the first place... But I had different issue with sex, too. Namely, I was terrified of it. I had family members who'd gotten pregnant at the age of 14 (I was 10 at the time), and from that exact moment, every day I was given bleak warnings about what would happen to me if I was seen with a boy. Warnings about what would happen to that boy. Spies were put into place to ensure that I was not getting into "trouble". I wasn't allowed to leave the house at night or attend high school dances.

    I think I was 20 (and living far away from my parents lol) when I finally found my first (and since then, only) REAL boyfriend. But I'm still afraid of sex most of the time simply because babies are on the Do Not Want list.

    But I never considered sex itself to be evil or terrible or awkward at all. Maybe I just found myself a good partner?

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  30. I was taught to wait until marriage. But when I'd been with my boyfriend for two years, this rule ceased to make sense. We were very close emotionally - what we shared with each other was actually more intimate, both of us felt, than the sex when we finally had it. To me it seems like such an arbitrary rule ... you might as well instruct couples not to tell each other their deepest secrets before marriage. Shouldn't you know these things, if you're planning to spend eternity together?

    My boyfriend and I broke up after five years, but I have no regrets that we were sexual partners as well as life partners while we were figuring each other out.

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  31. I feel very much this way. I waited until I was married to have sex – the result was devastating and ultimately ended in divorce. I struggled with finding sex enjoyable during my marriage with my child's father. There were moments that were great but mostly it was a huge chore for me. In part because his sexual desire and needs were far greater than mine. He shamed and guilted me into having sex when I didn't have any desire. This negativity only increased my lack of desire, destroyed my self-esteem, and made me feel like a mediocre woman and wife. This became the foundation for increased fights and tension between the two of us. We didn't get along much to begin with, but the sex issue magnified it significantly. I was too blindly in love to recognize that the arguing was unhealthy and didn't mean we were fighting for each others. When I was pregnant with our lovely daughter, I was blamed for "lieing" to him about me having been on birth control (He knew I hadn't been on it in over a year) and that I was ruining his potential by my irresponsibility (I even got this schpeall for an hour returning home with our sweet newborn in the backseat, in which all I did was cry). My whole pregnancy was miserable and my desire for sex completely fell off the map. After a child is born you are forbidden from having sex for quite some time for your body to heal. Because he felt so "neglected" without my knowledge he had a one night stand with some random girl, while his one month old and I were visiting my parents. Though I still didn't know about the betrayal our marriage quickly declined. I began confiding in my boss about my troubles at home and that blossomed into an unhealthy emotional relationship where I began having frequent sexual fantasies about him. I had never had such fantasies and they made me feel very guilty and excited. I began wanting him so badly and wanting out of my HORRIFIC marriage so badly. I used him as the excuse to get out. Of course, my religious beliefs and crazy religious nuts for in-laws made me feel inferior for wanting to listen to my gut! GET THE HELL OUT OF DODGE. I stuck it out for some time then his affair came to the surface. Mine had only been emotional, and never physical. I had been led to believe that SEX=Marriage. When sex happens you are married. So in my mind it was the same as him marrying someone else. Extremely devastating for me and took a long time to heal from. When I finally decided to end the marriage because it was something I simply could not forgive, I went on my own personal sexcapade. I had a few low moments but mostly I learned a lot about myself, what I needed, wanted and what works for me in a relationship. I've been remarried for almost two years and we decided to get married only after 4 months of dating. I knew it was different and "premarital sex" let me know we could work! We have a lovely little girl on the way and we are happier than I ever could have imagined. Sex is not bad like I was taught in church. Those in church are frightened about the consequences of irresponsible sex and don't want their innocent little girls to become women. Having girls of my own, I get it to a degree, but having experienced what I did makes me want to teach them about choosing sex as a form of responsible intimacy and to not give it away haphazardly. But for sex to be all bad, just creates a whole new set of emotional issues.

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  32. I am currently 20 years old and in college. My boyfriend and I have been together for 2 1/2 years now. (First boyfriend ever.) Our "fooling around" has been a very slow progression. I was with him an entire year before he actually got to see what my figure looked like (In a very form fitting dress). From then on, our sexuality with each other was made in steps, not because we talked about it, but because it just happened that way. Now 2 1/2 years later, he's seen every bit of my body, as I have him, and he loves me unconditionally. Now, we're waiting until we're married. My boyfriend is a virgin like me too. Like the author mentioned, I have had moments where I say "Screw this! Let's do this." But, every single time, he stops me, and reminds me that the next day, I won't be so happy about my decision...which is true, I wouldn't be. I think a lot of it also has to do with communication with couples. Sure, in the beginning it's quite awkward to voice what you like and don't like, but looking back on it, I'm SO glad I got to talk to my boyfriend about things like that, 1. It brought us closer. 2. There is no mystery. I do feel for the women who waited and were disappointed with their first time, or other times after that. I really hope that doesn't happen to me. (If later on, I marry my current boyfriend) But I'm pretty confident it won't. I am also very close to my father, and we talk about subjects like this all the time. Unfortunately, my mother is a completely different story. I've grown up Catholic, and of course, like the author, I can definitely relate to the forbidden and guilty feeling of having sexual desires. Now that I've gotten much older, having father who is willing to talk to me about it, has helped a ton. Also, every girl I've ever talked to whom had sex either too early in their teenage years, or before marriage has told me they regretted it. And any time I mention I'm still a virgin they praise me to no end, and tell me to stay that way until I'm married.

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  33. Im waiting till i'm married, im only 17 and im still with my first boyfriend, but he knows already. It has nothing to do with religion, though i do feel a little conditioned into thinking that only slutty girls have sex. The difference with me however, is that im honest about it, i'll tell my friends or my boyfriend that im a sexual person, me and my boyfriend have done other activities such as groping and blowjobs, but that's only if im completely comfortable. He's been very sweet and caring towards me, but mind you we've like each other for 3 years before but never did anything because I wasn't allowed to date. I think the difference about me and M. is that i see nothing wrong with wanting sex or telling people what I think, and that im comfortable in my own body and knowing my urges, the internet helps a lot too, and finding out what other people do and their opinions helps, i know a few friends who are starting to explore, and their experiences dont sounds very good, so Im thankful for my boyfriend, and his understanding, we still do stuff, but mainly to him since it makes us both happy, and I can tell that he's definitely NOT gay :)

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  34. I am 17 and have grown up in a household where talking about sex is taboo, and everything pertaining to it is "icky" or "bad". I have always thought that the one thing i am doing correctly in life is waiting to have sex until i am married. I constantly find myself wanting to hear the other side of the story though. I have no desire to have sex with more than one man, but i am starting to question whether or not waiting until marriage is the best option for me and my future relationships. My biggest fear is losing my virginity to a guy and then it ending up not working out. Because of my parents dry relationship (many factors considered, i can gaurentee there is no longer sex. I hardly believe they are in love, and they act more like two people who happen to have kids and live together than two people who are in love) i am struggling with this decision of sex before or after marriage. I am worried that when i get married, sex wont be all its cracked up to be after 20+ years of waiting. Im not necessarily going to say that i will have sex before marriage, but i am wondering if it would be a better idea to be open to sex if the right guy comes along and we both want to be together forever.

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  35. My Name is Harlie. and the reason i say my name is because im not ashamed to talk about these kinds of things. i just have no one to talk to and give me advice about it. I also like alot of you have done everything but actual vaginal sex. and do i feel guilty about it. YES! sometimes i wish i would have never started anything. but when you're in the mood. you just don't care. And the people that i do talk about it with they tell me to just do it. but there is something about my Christianity that i cant over come. I feel like God wont accept me if i do, do it. or if im going to give it up to someone im not going to marry then what special thing will i give my husband when i do get married. I am honestly terrified of sex with all the stories i hear. and i just need some advice please! anyone to talk to me about it i would be so happy!

    Please feel free to message me on my tumblr. so we can talk! ( falllightning.tumblr.com )

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    1. I have totally been there. You don't even know how much comfort it brings me to know that there are other people out there who feel the same way I do. I had sex with my first boyfriend when I was 17 and it was devastating. After that I completely swore off men and became a very strong Christian. I recently started dating a guy I really genuinely love. He doesn't share my view of waiting until marraige, but I have told him that that is what I want and that I won't be ready for a long time. He says he will wait for me because he loves me. and yeah we have done "other" things that aren't sex. But I'm starting to question my faith and even though I know it will be a few years before I am ready, maybe once we have been committed to each other for that long...(if it lasts that long) I will be ok. I also just really want to graduate college before being sexually active since I'm not really ready for the responsibility of using birth control and I don't want to have to worry about pregnancy. Each person is different and I feel great knowing its not abnormal to want to wait. TV and movies are very unrealistic about the realities of sex. Thanks so much to everyone who posted on this! Its helped me so much!

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  36. http://waitingtillmarriage.org/the-top-10-awesome-benefits-of-waiting-until-marriage/
    read this! The whole site is amazing!
    I am waiting!

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  37. I am a Christian who did not wait until marriage to have sex. I did wait until I was 25, but even before that I had messed around with boyfriends for years. I was always a very sexual girl and just had a hard time controlling myself. I lived with guilt so much. Finally when I did have sex, I realized why God made it for marriage . For me, when I have sex I give so much of myself on such a deep level to that person. It was awesome and amazing...like it should be. But when we broke up it was devastating. I felt irrevocably connected to him(like you're suppose to feel after sex). I guess if you wanna be able to have sex on a lesser level where you don't give yourself as much you can, but it's not nearly as awesome. Personally I feel way sexier when I'm holding it in waiting for that special time, where I know the bond won't be so easily broken by just breaking up. I have a really healthy attitude toward sex though I'm abstaining for now. I can't wait. Now that I understand how powerful it is for me, I respect it like fire. I had to get burned to respect it, and it hurt deeply. But we can be made new. It just takes time to heal. Thank you God for such an amazing gift.

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  38. How sad that Christianity is still so very sex negative. Believe it or not, sex CAN be taught in a sex positive manner to kids, with an emphasis on building relationship skills, holy intentionality, accurate information about sexual desire, and (dare I say?) positive use of masturbation and sexual fantasy, along with heavy doses of FORGIVENESS, for we have ALL fallen short. For those freaking out about masturbation and fantasy, remember that God created your sexual desire and sexual thoughts and fantasies as good and holy in preparation for marriage. Now, I know some are thinking: 'lust,! lust! adultry!' This approach is the root of the problems cited above; seeing a beautiful person, thinking about sex and getting aroused to the point that you want to have an orgasm is not a sin, it's the way God made you. Of course, if the attitude is depersonalizing, using, and selfish, sin then enters the equation. Talk about SIN, the OP's story demonstrates the incredible sinfulness of a church that failed those tow young folks, setting them both up for misery and pain.

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  40. No waiting

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  41. This woman does not represent all virgins. I feel the need to state this, because I am a virgin and EVERY time blogs discuss the whole "waiting till marriage" deal, it always involves a female virgin who was raised in sexual ignorance in a repressive religious home, and felt guilt and shame for her desires. It perpetuates the stereotype that a religious virgin is sexually ignorant, repressed, and constantly thinks about sin.

    As a religious virgin who has met MANY women like myself, I would like to dispel that stereotype.

    I'm a 25-year old Indian-American woman, educated and employed in a white-collar profession in a major city. I was also raised to believe that "a lady waits till marriage", but it was never a huge deal that we talked about. Words like sin, shame and guilt never entered into my thought processes. I was a little different from girls my age and I didn't want to date anyone in high school, because I was happy to wait for an arranged marriage.

    Meanwhile, I had an extremely, insanely high sex drive. I told my mother about it and she asked me if I wanted a boyfriend. I knew she would give me permission if I insisted (and I was raised in a very traditional, upper-middle-class Indian family), but I independently chose not to date anyone. I knew, even at that age, that for me personally, good sex was deeply linked to the emotional security of everlasting love. I also accepted that other girls did not equate sex and love. My friends had very different sexual habits, and I accepted them.

    And although I chose to wait, I did not actual repress and neglect my sexual needs. I've been an expert at masturbation since I was 12 years old and not one. single. day. have I ever felt guilty about it. And nobody who knew would make me feel guilty about it either. Last year I told my mom that I masturbated twice a day, and she was happy for me. My parents have never denied that sexual desire is healthy, they just believe both men and women should only have sex with their ultimate partners.

    I defy anyone to find a more dedicated feminist than I am. I'm outgoing, extremely confident, have self-respect spilling out of my ears and am very, very professionally successful. I also know what I like sexually, thanks to years of porn and masturbation. I have friends, and I am probably going to get married this year as the arranged marriage circuit has thrown up some grooms that I'm interested in. I fully intend to have a serious talk about sex with any future fiance to make sure that we are compatible.

    And there are more women like me than you'd think. Virgins in their 20's who are politically liberal, socially well-adjusted, sexually educated and aware, and too comfortable with themselves to worry about sin and guilt. So don't put us all in the same box.

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  42. just because someone waits for marriage doesn't mean they are asexual, nor does it mean they are gay.

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  43. Hey everyone. I'm a Christian and I very much believe in God but it feels like...I don't want to say it because the title does sound terrible...but it feels like my girlfriend is a "Jesus freak". I even feel bad saying that. (sigh). We've known each other for a year and have been boyfriend and girlfriend for 8 months and had sex about 8 times. When we first met she said she wants to practice abstinence because of the whole "Christian" thing and I respect that. After a month or two, after making out one night we had sex. I enjoyed it, she said she enjoyed it...but like a week later she had this huge guilt cloud over her...I don't understand. Then like a month or two later on we end up having sex again. Sometimes she'll start crying afterwards because she feels guilty and stuff. This makes me feel bad as well because I feel like she thinks I don't respect her "lifestyle" of abstinence. This current day she sounds serious about not having sex until marriage but what about my needs. I've offered we do the 69 position because I don't mind pleasing my woman but she refuses that as well. I'm seriously frustrated. I honestly don't believe this is fair to me. We're in a relationship so shouldn't there be some sort of compromise. I'm pretty sure everyone reading this can tell I've had this on my mind for a while and I'm venting out right now but (sigh). Thank you everyone that took time to read this short essay of my love life. Can anyone give me tips or ideas we can do before marriage or what I can say to her. Please help.

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    1. Hey. Its not your fault, nor hers. It's human nature to be tempted and if you're serious about abstaining then I recommend you don't put yourself into any temptation where things could happen. I know what it feels like to be consumed by guilt because you've crossed a line, but I've never been angry at my boyfriend, just angry at myself. I know that you have needs, but sometimes you've got to weigh up the massive debt that was paid so that you could live and the spur of the moment burst of temptation. Personally, I'm trying to save it until I'm married to the person God has set aside for me, but I'm not naive or idealistic; I know it will be difficult. I know it sounds harsh to say that you shouldn't put yourself in a situation where you could be tempted, but we're all tempted; nobody is immune (even Jesus was!). This means that I think that you shouldn't do anything that could border on sexual, but if you do, tell her not to feel guilty. As humans we're imperfect and we fall down sometimes. I once heard a speaker say that its the devil that makes you feel guilty, not God. God has already forgiven you. Just think of how amazing and special your wedding night will be.

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    2. Honestly this is a very selfish post. If your girlfriend decides she doesn't want to have sex, that should be the end of the conversation. It's her body and she has every right to say no at any time. If this is an issue for you, maybe you shouldn't be in a relationship. I find a lot of your phrases problematic, such as, "But what about my needs?" and "we're in a relationship so shouldn't there be some sort of compromise?" The answer to those questions are 1. Masturbate. and 2. No, she should not comprise her morals because you want to get off. Period.

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  44. I have some mixed feelings about my sexual experiences. I'm a sexually active unmarried 19 year old, and I lost my virginity at barely 15 to a guy two years older than me. It was a fine relationship but I lost my virginity to him just 3 weeks after we started dating, and let me tell you: not once in over a year did he make me orgasm. And that makes sense! Because I was still so young and so was he! How were we to know that most women don't have strictly vaginal orgasms, or about the clitoris, anal stimulation, how to properly have digital sex, etc. He didn't pressure me at all, but because of all the older people in my life having sex, I felt pressured by my environment. Oh yeah, and the first time sucked. Not only did I have the classic "That's it? That's sex?" reaction, but he got a foot cramp halfway through and didn't finish.

    I had a couple more sexual encounters after we broke up but both were horrible, and then I started dating my current boyfriend. The first sexual thing in our relationship was him giving me oral sex and I had my first orgasm from a partner. Our sex is amazing and beautiful, not only because we're both experienced, informed adults, but because we love each other very much.

    I will ask this, based on what I've heard about other girls' first times, why would you want to wait until marriage to have sex? This isn't to be condescending, I'm genuinely curious. I just feel like sex gets better with experience and I wouldn't want to say, "That's it? That's sex?" on my wedding night.

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    1. I totally agree with you. I know a bunch of people that waited till marriage and ended up not enjoying sex. They both lacked the experience and both were disappointed after. I say if you two love each other then experience each other. I don't see the big deal with waiting. 1.People in the past waited till marriage because they got married younger(19/20years old) There wasn't that much stress on "waiting till you're married" because soon as you're an adult(20years old) you were either engaged or married anyway. 2.Sex helps the relationship(intimacy/lack of stress). People are getting married at older ages because times have changed. The economy sucks and people are trying to get their careers started and established. People are basically saying "wait till you're in your mid 30s to get married and then have sex" where statistics say a male begins to lose their testosterone late 30s, early 40s...With that said the man may not even be that sexually thrilled because of "nature"......and risk cheating on their significant other because they now feel what sex feels like and would like to try it with other people. Think about it. After you have sex for the first time you're going to want it more and more. How is that going to settle with your partner huh? Do you really think your husband/wife is going to ALWAYS want to have sex after you both have sex that 1st time? Lets be real man. I'm a realist. Maybe someone else can give you a valid reason to wait till marriage because I sure can't. Have a good one
      -Peace & Love

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  45. I totally agree with you. I know a bunch of people that waited till marriage and ended up not enjoying sex. They both lacked the experience and both were disappointed after. I say if you two love each other then experience each other. I don't see the big deal with waiting. 1.People in the past waited till marriage because they got married younger(19/20years old) There wasn't that much stress on "waiting till you're married" because soon as you're an adult(20years old) you were either engaged or married anyway. 2.Sex helps the relationship(intimacy/lack of stress). People are getting married at older ages because times have changed. The economy sucks and people are trying to get their careers started and established. People are basically saying "wait till you're in your mid 30s to get married and then have sex" where statistics say a male begins to lose their testosterone late 30s, early 40s...With that said the man may not even be that sexually thrilled because of "nature"......and risk cheating on their significant other because they now feel what sex feels like and would like to try it with other people. Think about it. After you have sex for the first time you're going to want it more and more. How is that going to settle with your partner huh? Do you really think your husband/wife is going to ALWAYS want to have sex after you both have sex that 1st time? Lets be real man. I'm a realist. Maybe someone else can give you a valid reason to wait till marriage because I sure can't. Have a good one
    -Peace & Love

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